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<div><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">How do i differentiate salaries of 2 departments in <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">centers</span>?</span>
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<div><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><br></span>
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</div>9:18:38 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> hi Dhaval..</span>
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<br>9:18:42 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> this is Umair..</span>
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<br>9:18:44 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> how are you?</span>
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<br>9:18:46 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> hey umair</span>
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<br>9:18:49 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> m good</span>
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<br>9:19:16 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> have you created department wise <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span>?</span>
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<br>9:19:27 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> no we have not yet created <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span></span>
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<br>9:19:36 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> if so, this is how you should post journal voucher for salary..</span>
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<br>9:19:49 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> can you help us in an ideal way to setup up <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">centers</span>?</span>
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<br>9:19:50 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> I will just give you an example first..</span>
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<br>9:19:53 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> ok</span>
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<br>9:20:09 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> if you give 2,00,000 in a monthly salary..</span>
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<br>9:20:37 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> and divide salary expense in multiple <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span>:</span>
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<br>9:20:52 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> then this how journal voucher will be posted.</span>
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<br>9:23:06 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> Dr. Salary (Expense a/c) ........... Sales (<span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span>) ........... 80000
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<br> Dr. Salary ..............................
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<wbr>. Manufacturing .................. 70000
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<br> Dr. Salary ..............................
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<wbr>. Admin.........................
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<wbr>..... 30000
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<br> Dr. Salary ..............................
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<wbr>. Seniors ............................ 20000
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<br> Cr. Bank/Cash account.......................
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<wbr>..............................
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<wbr>. 200000</span>
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<br>9:23:15 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> Debit = Credit - 2,00,000</span>
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<br>9:23:25 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> ok</span>
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<br>9:23:32 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> so, expense account selected will be same..</span>
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<br>9:23:45 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> but you will divide rows based on <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span>.</span>
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<br>9:24:00 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> but we have 3 levels of hierarchy</span>
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<br>9:24:30 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> like Production Unit -1 > Departments > sections</span>
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<br>9:24:49 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> its like a tree,</span>
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<br>9:24:57 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span> within a <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span></span>
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<br>9:25:48 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> you can define child - parent relationship in <span class="il">Cost</span> <span class="il">Center</span> master.</span>
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<br>9:26:01 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> because it is a tree structure master..</span>
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<br>9:26:20 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> ya, but here is my problem</span>
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<br>9:26:20 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> but only child <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">centers</span> will be selectable in the transactions..</span>
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<br>9:26:28 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> exactly</span>
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<br>9:26:52 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> <a href="https://erpnext.com/user-guide/selling/selling-setup/customer-group" target="_blank">https://erpnext.com/user-<wbr>guide/selling/selling-setup/<wbr>customer-group</a></span>
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<br>9:27:08 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> check this for example on how to manage tree masters</span>
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<br>9:28:03 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> so how can i have a <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span> of production unit as a ledger as well as parent</span>
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<br>9:29:45 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> Production (parent)<br> - Cutting<br> - Stitching<br> - packing</span>
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<br>9:30:09 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> so how do i track salaries of each of there depts</span>
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<br>9:30:15 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> these*</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> check attached link for example on how to create group and child <span class="il">Cost</span> <span class="il">Centers</span>.</span>
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<br>9:31:00 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> in JV, you will select Cutting, Packing department for <span class="il">Cost</span> <span class="il">Center</span>.</span>
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<br>9:31:06 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> i have to create each individual ledgers - cutting salary, stitching salary, packing salary</span>
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<br>9:32:15 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> OH! so in JV, when i select Cutting, Packing department for <span class="il">Cost</span> <span class="il">Center</span>. will it show salary as a head in
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the <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span>?</span>
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<br>9:32:22 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> as it is a salary JV?</span>
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<br>9:32:32 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> or will only the value of the amount show?</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> it will show balance for the individual <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span>..</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> and consolidated <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span> for Production <span class="il">Cost</span> <span class="il">Center</span>, which
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is parent for these <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">centers</span></span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> so only amount and not against the type expense</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> yes.. it will show again Salary Account as well..</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> basically, we tag <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span> with Profit and Loss account..</span>
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<br>9:38:34 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> ok</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> so actual ledger posting happens in the Account/Ledger..</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> <span class="il">Cost</span> <span class="il">Center</span> shows balance based on amount mentioned with it..</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> so in <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">centers</span> i should just keep all my depts as ledgers and all <span class="il">costs</span> will be
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> so, we need to identify the correct combination of <span class="il">Cost</span> <span class="il">Center</span> and Expense account when making entry</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> as per your scenario, this seems to be better.</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> we can comeup with other solution as scenario changes.</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> ok so, just for my knowledge, what was the default according to you?</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> where do i track <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span> transactions?</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> there is no default as such <img class="CToWUd" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=5ded98c3b2&view=fimg&th=14997f6e6fc0690c&attid=0.2&disp=emb&attbid=ANGjdJ8-s7s_w-HjfYCzquJ_jtWcYmi_jio2e21FfwAQMuN0Ojva3jv5ASXx__dGcNPLBGFnkLIhVx7IEYFiJRpimtb3Baen5vbSkns_O1ZHy63fuzSb1DKi0IilcQE&sz=w1600-h1000&ats=1415597192468&rm=14997f6e6fc0690c&zw&atsh=1" alt="Smiley: Smile" title="Smile" height="24" width="24"></span>
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<br>9:43:56 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> you can define masters you per your requirement..</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> we suggest setting up <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span> based on Project..</span>
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<br>9:44:19 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> because it will help you track profitability as well.</span>
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<br>9:44:29 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> but thats another scenario.</span>
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<br>9:44:41 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> ok</span>
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<br>9:44:44 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> cool</span>
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<br>9:46:36 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> where to tract <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">center</span> reports?</span>
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<br>9:47:24 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#006400;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> track*</span>
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<br>9:48:32 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dhaval Shah:</span>
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<br>9:48:51 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> Accounts >> Main Reports >> Financial Analytics</span>
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<br>9:49:12 AM: <span style="color:#696969;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Web Notes Support:</span>
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<br><span style="color:#b22222;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> below P&L and Balance Sheet, you will find <span class="il">cost</span> <span class="il">centers</span> for selection.</span>
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