Write a post about distributing same expense among various cost centers.
How do i differentiate salaries of 2 departments in cost centers?
9:18:38 AM: Web Notes Support:
hi Dhaval..
9:18:42 AM: Web Notes Support:
this is Umair..
9:18:44 AM: Web Notes Support:
how are you?
9:18:46 AM: Dhaval Shah:
hey umair
9:18:49 AM: Dhaval Shah:
m good
9:19:16 AM: Web Notes Support:
have you created department wise cost center?
9:19:27 AM: Dhaval Shah:
no we have not yet created cost center
9:19:36 AM: Web Notes Support:
if so, this is how you should post journal voucher for salary..
9:19:49 AM: Dhaval Shah:
can you help us in an ideal way to setup up cost centers?
9:19:50 AM: Web Notes Support:
I will just give you an example first..
9:19:53 AM: Dhaval Shah:
ok
9:20:09 AM: Web Notes Support:
if you give 2,00,000 in a monthly salary..
9:20:37 AM: Web Notes Support:
and divide salary expense in multiple cost center:
9:20:52 AM: Web Notes Support:
then this how journal voucher will be posted.
9:23:06 AM: Web Notes Support:
Dr. Salary (Expense a/c) ........... Sales (cost center) ........... 80000
Dr. Salary ..............................
. Manufacturing .................. 70000
Dr. Salary ..............................
. Admin.........................
..... 30000
Dr. Salary ..............................
. Seniors ............................ 20000
Cr. Bank/Cash account.......................
..............................
. 200000
9:23:15 AM: Web Notes Support:
Debit = Credit - 2,00,000
9:23:25 AM: Dhaval Shah:
ok
9:23:32 AM: Web Notes Support:
so, expense account selected will be same..
9:23:45 AM: Web Notes Support:
but you will divide rows based on cost center.
9:24:00 AM: Dhaval Shah:
but we have 3 levels of hierarchy
9:24:30 AM: Dhaval Shah:
like Production Unit -1 > Departments > sections
9:24:49 AM: Dhaval Shah:
its like a tree,
9:24:57 AM: Dhaval Shah:
cost center within a cost center
9:25:48 AM: Web Notes Support:
you can define child - parent relationship in Cost Center master.
9:26:01 AM: Web Notes Support:
because it is a tree structure master..
9:26:20 AM: Dhaval Shah:
ya, but here is my problem
9:26:20 AM: Web Notes Support:
but only child cost centers will be selectable in the transactions..
9:26:28 AM: Dhaval Shah:
exactly
9:26:52 AM: Web Notes Support:
https://erpnext.com/user-guide/selling/selling-setup/customer-group
9:27:08 AM: Web Notes Support:
check this for example on how to manage tree masters
9:28:03 AM: Dhaval Shah:
so how can i have a cost center of production unit as a ledger as well as parent
9:29:45 AM: Web Notes Support:
Production (parent)
- Cutting
- Stitching
- packing
9:30:09 AM: Dhaval Shah:
so how do i track salaries of each of there depts
9:30:15 AM: Dhaval Shah:
these*
9:30:25 AM: Web Notes Support:
check attached link for example on how to create group and child Cost Centers.
9:31:00 AM: Web Notes Support:
in JV, you will select Cutting, Packing department for Cost Center.
9:31:06 AM: Dhaval Shah:
i have to create each individual ledgers - cutting salary, stitching salary, packing salary
9:32:15 AM: Dhaval Shah:
OH! so in JV, when i select Cutting, Packing department for Cost Center. will it show salary as a head in
the cost center?
9:32:22 AM: Dhaval Shah:
as it is a salary JV?
9:32:32 AM: Dhaval Shah:
or will only the value of the amount show?
9:33:50 AM: Web Notes Support:
it will show balance for the individual cost center..
9:34:19 AM: Web Notes Support:
and consolidated cost center for Production Cost Center, which
is parent for these cost centers
9:34:38 AM: Dhaval Shah:
so only amount and not against the type expense
9:38:00 AM: Web Notes Support:
yes.. it will show again Salary Account as well..
9:38:17 AM: Web Notes Support:
basically, we tag cost center with Profit and Loss account..
9:38:34 AM: Dhaval Shah:
ok
9:38:35 AM: Web Notes Support:
so actual ledger posting happens in the Account/Ledger..
9:38:54 AM: Web Notes Support:
Cost Center shows balance based on amount mentioned with it..
9:39:17 AM: Dhaval Shah:
so in cost centers i should just keep all my depts as ledgers and all costs will be
tracked for all types of expenses
9:39:23 AM: Web Notes Support:
so, we need to identify the correct combination of Cost Center and Expense account when making entry
9:39:45 AM: Web Notes Support:
thats one approach.
9:39:54 AM: Web Notes Support:
you can try and check if it works for you.
9:40:12 AM: Dhaval Shah:
what is the other approach?
9:41:53 AM: Web Notes Support:
as per your scenario, this seems to be better.
9:42:08 AM: Web Notes Support:
we can comeup with other solution as scenario changes.
9:42:57 AM: Dhaval Shah:
ok so, just for my knowledge, what was the default according to you?
9:43:11 AM: Dhaval Shah:
where do i track cost center transactions?
9:43:43 AM: Web Notes Support:
there is no default as such
9:43:56 AM: Web Notes Support:
you can define masters you per your requirement..
9:44:06 AM: Web Notes Support:
we suggest setting up cost center based on Project..
9:44:19 AM: Web Notes Support:
because it will help you track profitability as well.
9:44:29 AM: Web Notes Support:
but thats another scenario.
9:44:41 AM: Dhaval Shah:
ok
9:44:44 AM: Dhaval Shah:
cool
9:46:36 AM: Dhaval Shah:
where to tract cost center reports?
9:47:24 AM: Dhaval Shah:
track*
9:48:32 AM: Dhaval Shah:
?
9:48:51 AM: Web Notes Support:
Accounts >> Main Reports >> Financial Analytics
9:49:12 AM: Web Notes Support:
below P&L and Balance Sheet, you will find cost centers for selection.